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#19487538 at 2023-09-04 10:08:37 (UTC+1)
Q Research AUSTRALIA #32: YOU ARE NOT ALONE IN THIS FIGHT Edition
#31 - Part 38
Indigenous Voice To Parliament Referendum - Part 9
>>19320706 Indigenous voice to parliament No camp fears rush of the late engagers - Senior No campaigners have warned of complacency, fears that 20 to 30 per cent of voters will remain undecided on the voice until polls open and a "cooling" in fundraising and volunteer support, according to a leaked memo sent to Australians for Unity board members. The No campaign, which leads Yes23 in internal and public polling, holds serious concerns it will be outspent and outnumbered in the weeks leading up to the expected October 14 referendum asking Australians to enshrine a voice advisory body in the Constitution.
>>19326823 Indigenous voice to parliament: AI No group denies relationship with Warren Mundine and Jacinta Price - The man behind a No campaign group that has drawn criticism for using AI generated videos has denied having a formal or informal relationship with Warren Mundine or Country-Liberal senator Jacinta Price. The ABC was forced to issue a statement of clarification after former NAIDOC co-chair and journalist John Paul Janke said voice opponents were using AI to make it appear "like it is an ?Indigenous person supporting the No campaign". Phillip Mobbs, who is running Constitutional Equality, said AI was a cost-effective way to create campaign videos that reflected multicultural Australia. "What you'll observe is the avatar is clearly not Indigenous but (it) does reflect the multicultural society we live in," he said. Mr Mobbs, whose background is in education, said he had no relationship with Senator Price, Mr Mundine or No campaign group Advance Australia.
>>19326866 Video: Indigenous voice to parliament referendum 'the best chance to shape treaty', says Thomas Mayo - Prominent Yes campaigner Thomas Mayo says Indigenous Australians who signed the Uluru Statement from the Heart ?wanted to pursue a voice first "so that we could have the best possible say on the Makarrata commission" to oversee agreement-making and truth-telling. Mr Mayo made the direct link between the voice and treaty as fellow leading Yes supporters - including Megan Davis and Tom Calma - backed Anthony Albanese in warning this referendum would be Australians' only chance to pass constitutional recognition in a generation.
>>19327086 Video: Senator says Uluru Statement 'confirmed' as 26 pages by NIAA, after Albo blasts claim as 'QAnon' conspiracy - Senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price says the Uluru Statement from the Heart has been "confirmed" as being 26 pages long by the agency that produced the documents under freedom of information, as she called on Anthony Albanese to "come clean" after the Prime Minister derided the claim as a "QAnon" style conspiracy theory on Tuesday. Mr Albanese used Question Time on Tuesday to blast the claims as a "QAnon" style conspiracy theory. "That is a conspiracy in search of a theory, Mr Speaker," the PM said. "It is something that has been out there, like a whole lot of the QAnon theories, we have all sorts of conspiracy stuff out there, but this is a ripper. That is the Uluru Statement from the Heart on an A4 bit of paper. That is it. But what we have here is the conspiracy theories colliding with each other. They're struggling to get their scares straight. I mean, what role did Marcia Langton play in the faking of the moon landing, Mr Speaker? What was the role of the Uluru Statement from the Heart in that?" He stressed it was "absolutely nonsense".
>>19333302 Indigenous voice to parliament: Anthony Albanese strikes back on length of Uluru Statement - Anthony Albanese has attempted to slap down Coalition accusations the Uluru Statement from the Heart is more than one page as "absolute conspiracy and nonsense", amid claims the Indigenous Australians agency has faced political pressure to fall into line with the government. The No campaign is intensifying debate over whether the Uluru statement is one or more pages as the Coalition points to previous comments from Megan Davis - an architect of the statement - that it was actually about 18 to 20 pages. The Coalition is claiming the government is wrong to say the Uluru Statement is one page, arguing the document is 26 pages and includes statements about invasion, treaty and genocide.
#19487536 at 2023-09-04 10:08:17 (UTC+1)
Q Research AUSTRALIA #32: YOU ARE NOT ALONE IN THIS FIGHT Edition
#31 - Part 37
Indigenous Voice To Parliament Referendum - Part 8
>>19303148 Video: Yes campaign relieved as WA set to scrap controversial heritage laws - An obstacle appears to have been cleared from the path of the Yes campaign with the Western Australian government expected to scrap controversial Aboriginal heritage laws that had become a flashpoint in the Voice referendum. Reports of the move to ditch the laws were welcomed by the Yes campaign and Voice advocates at the Garma Festival in north-east Arnhem Land yesterday, after the federal Coalition sought to link the two issues and suggested the WA measures were a precursor to broader national changes that could infringe on property owners' rights.
>>19308103 'Not focused on hypotheticals': PM not considering other forms of Indigenous recognition if Voice fails - Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has warned no other forms of Indigenous recognition will be on the table if the Voice referendum fails. He told ABC's Insiders program, filmed at Garma Festival in north-east Arnhem Land, he will not back down from constitutional recognition in the form of a Voice to Parliament because that was the specific request First Nations people made in the Uluru Statement. "This is a once-in-a-generation opportunity," he said.
>>19308109 Labor in no-man's land, not wanting to promote a treaty while also unable to say it won't happen - "Anthony Albanese has launched a media blitz to reboot the failing campaign for a voice to parliament, warning there will be no second chance for constitutional recognition of indigenous Australians if the referendum fails. Amid the glow of an uplifting Garma festival of indigenous Australians, and against the idyllic backdrop of Arnhem Land, the Prime Minister is using his "spear of strength" to simultaneously promote the indigenous voice to parliament, warn there will be no watered-down versions of recognition, and to distance himself and the commonwealth from the Uluru Statement commitment to a treaty." - Dennis Shanahan - theaustralian.com.au
>>19308112 Video: 'Complete lie': Jacinta Price rejects claims No campaign using fake images of Indigenous people - No campaigner Warren Mundine and Country-Liberal senator Jacinta Price have knocked back "racist" allegations they have used AI-generated images of Aboriginal people to encourage people to oppose the Indigenous voice. Former NAIDOC co-chair and journalist John Paul Janke on Sunday told ABC Insiders that voice opposers had created the AI-generated images "to try to look like it is an Indigenous person supporting the No campaign". "Online, the No campaign have multiple social media pages. Some of them are now using AI with a Blak Indigenous character to try to look like it is an Indigenous person supporting the No campaign," he said, speaking from the Garma festival.
>>19314716 'Nothing to fear from Makaratta', Anthony Albanese says after Garma boost for voice referendum - Anthony Albanese says there is nothing to fear from the second stage of the Uluru Statement from the Heart - a proposed Makarrata commission often referred to as treaty for short - because any agreement making would be mutual, not imposed. After weeks of trying to separate the voice referendum from a Makaratta Commission, the Prime Minister said no Australian could deny the "struggle" of Indigenous Australians and that the commission would bring people together.
>>19320661 Video: WA Premier Roger Cook announces repeal of Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Laws - WA Premier Roger Cook has confirmed his government will scrap its controversial Aboriginal cultural heritage legislation. The laws have been in effect for only five weeks, and had been designed to avoid a repeat of Rio Tinto's destruction of 46,000-year-old culturally significant caves at Juukan Gorge in 2020. But Mr Cook now says those laws went too far, were too complicated and placed unnecessary burdens on property owners. "I understand that the legislation has unintentionally caused stress, confusion and division in the community and for that I am sorry," he told a press conference this morning.
>>19320682 WA backtrack on heritage laws is a reminder the Indigenous voice to parliament can't be scrapped - "The "forever" nature of Anthony Albanese's constitutionally enshrined voice to parliament has been put up in lights by the West Australian retreat over introduction of Indigenous cultural heritage laws. This is the obvious point: there can be no backdown over a voice to parliament that has been cemented into the Constitution. If the voice proves unpopular, something goes wrong with the advisory body or there are unintended consequences, the entity cannot be scrapped. While bad governments can be voted out and bad laws can be repealed, the voice is permanent." - Joe Kelly - theaustralian.com.au
#19487401 at 2023-09-04 09:18:39 (UTC+1)
Q Research AUSTRALIA #31: MAGIC SWORD - IN THE FACE OF EVIL Edition
#31 - Part 38
Indigenous Voice To Parliament Referendum - Part 9
>>19320706 Indigenous voice to parliament No camp fears rush of the late engagers - Senior No campaigners have warned of complacency, fears that 20 to 30 per cent of voters will remain undecided on the voice until polls open and a "cooling" in fundraising and volunteer support, according to a leaked memo sent to Australians for Unity board members. The No campaign, which leads Yes23 in internal and public polling, holds serious concerns it will be outspent and outnumbered in the weeks leading up to the expected October 14 referendum asking Australians to enshrine a voice advisory body in the Constitution.
>>19326823 Indigenous voice to parliament: AI No group denies relationship with Warren Mundine and Jacinta Price - The man behind a No campaign group that has drawn criticism for using AI generated videos has denied having a formal or informal relationship with Warren Mundine or Country-Liberal senator Jacinta Price. The ABC was forced to issue a statement of clarification after former NAIDOC co-chair and journalist John Paul Janke said voice opponents were using AI to make it appear "like it is an ?Indigenous person supporting the No campaign". Phillip Mobbs, who is running Constitutional Equality, said AI was a cost-effective way to create campaign videos that reflected multicultural Australia. "What you'll observe is the avatar is clearly not Indigenous but (it) does reflect the multicultural society we live in," he said. Mr Mobbs, whose background is in education, said he had no relationship with Senator Price, Mr Mundine or No campaign group Advance Australia.
>>19326866 Video: Indigenous voice to parliament referendum 'the best chance to shape treaty', says Thomas Mayo - Prominent Yes campaigner Thomas Mayo says Indigenous Australians who signed the Uluru Statement from the Heart ?wanted to pursue a voice first "so that we could have the best possible say on the Makarrata commission" to oversee agreement-making and truth-telling. Mr Mayo made the direct link between the voice and treaty as fellow leading Yes supporters - including Megan Davis and Tom Calma - backed Anthony Albanese in warning this referendum would be Australians' only chance to pass constitutional recognition in a generation.
>>19327086 Video: Senator says Uluru Statement 'confirmed' as 26 pages by NIAA, after Albo blasts claim as 'QAnon' conspiracy - Senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price says the Uluru Statement from the Heart has been "confirmed" as being 26 pages long by the agency that produced the documents under freedom of information, as she called on Anthony Albanese to "come clean" after the Prime Minister derided the claim as a "QAnon" style conspiracy theory on Tuesday. Mr Albanese used Question Time on Tuesday to blast the claims as a "QAnon" style conspiracy theory. "That is a conspiracy in search of a theory, Mr Speaker," the PM said. "It is something that has been out there, like a whole lot of the QAnon theories, we have all sorts of conspiracy stuff out there, but this is a ripper. That is the Uluru Statement from the Heart on an A4 bit of paper. That is it. But what we have here is the conspiracy theories colliding with each other. They're struggling to get their scares straight. I mean, what role did Marcia Langton play in the faking of the moon landing, Mr Speaker? What was the role of the Uluru Statement from the Heart in that?" He stressed it was "absolutely nonsense".
>>19333302 Indigenous voice to parliament: Anthony Albanese strikes back on length of Uluru Statement - Anthony Albanese has attempted to slap down Coalition accusations the Uluru Statement from the Heart is more than one page as "absolute conspiracy and nonsense", amid claims the Indigenous Australians agency has faced political pressure to fall into line with the government. The No campaign is intensifying debate over whether the Uluru statement is one or more pages as the Coalition points to previous comments from Megan Davis - an architect of the statement - that it was actually about 18 to 20 pages. The Coalition is claiming the government is wrong to say the Uluru Statement is one page, arguing the document is 26 pages and includes statements about invasion, treaty and genocide.
#19487398 at 2023-09-04 09:17:36 (UTC+1)
Q Research AUSTRALIA #31: MAGIC SWORD - IN THE FACE OF EVIL Edition
#31 - Part 37
Indigenous Voice To Parliament Referendum - Part 8
>>19303148 Video: Yes campaign relieved as WA set to scrap controversial heritage laws - An obstacle appears to have been cleared from the path of the Yes campaign with the Western Australian government expected to scrap controversial Aboriginal heritage laws that had become a flashpoint in the Voice referendum. Reports of the move to ditch the laws were welcomed by the Yes campaign and Voice advocates at the Garma Festival in north-east Arnhem Land yesterday, after the federal Coalition sought to link the two issues and suggested the WA measures were a precursor to broader national changes that could infringe on property owners' rights.
>>19308103 'Not focused on hypotheticals': PM not considering other forms of Indigenous recognition if Voice fails - Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has warned no other forms of Indigenous recognition will be on the table if the Voice referendum fails. He told ABC's Insiders program, filmed at Garma Festival in north-east Arnhem Land, he will not back down from constitutional recognition in the form of a Voice to Parliament because that was the specific request First Nations people made in the Uluru Statement. "This is a once-in-a-generation opportunity," he said.
>>19308109 Labor in no-man's land, not wanting to promote a treaty while also unable to say it won't happen - "Anthony Albanese has launched a media blitz to reboot the failing campaign for a voice to parliament, warning there will be no second chance for constitutional recognition of indigenous Australians if the referendum fails. Amid the glow of an uplifting Garma festival of indigenous Australians, and against the idyllic backdrop of Arnhem Land, the Prime Minister is using his "spear of strength" to simultaneously promote the indigenous voice to parliament, warn there will be no watered-down versions of recognition, and to distance himself and the commonwealth from the Uluru Statement commitment to a treaty." - Dennis Shanahan - theaustralian.com.au
>>19308112 Video: 'Complete lie': Jacinta Price rejects claims No campaign using fake images of Indigenous people - No campaigner Warren Mundine and Country-Liberal senator Jacinta Price have knocked back "racist" allegations they have used AI-generated images of Aboriginal people to encourage people to oppose the Indigenous voice. Former NAIDOC co-chair and journalist John Paul Janke on Sunday told ABC Insiders that voice opposers had created the AI-generated images "to try to look like it is an Indigenous person supporting the No campaign". "Online, the No campaign have multiple social media pages. Some of them are now using AI with a Blak Indigenous character to try to look like it is an Indigenous person supporting the No campaign," he said, speaking from the Garma festival.
>>19314716 'Nothing to fear from Makaratta', Anthony Albanese says after Garma boost for voice referendum - Anthony Albanese says there is nothing to fear from the second stage of the Uluru Statement from the Heart - a proposed Makarrata commission often referred to as treaty for short - because any agreement making would be mutual, not imposed. After weeks of trying to separate the voice referendum from a Makaratta Commission, the Prime Minister said no Australian could deny the "struggle" of Indigenous Australians and that the commission would bring people together.
>>19320661 Video: WA Premier Roger Cook announces repeal of Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Laws - WA Premier Roger Cook has confirmed his government will scrap its controversial Aboriginal cultural heritage legislation. The laws have been in effect for only five weeks, and had been designed to avoid a repeat of Rio Tinto's destruction of 46,000-year-old culturally significant caves at Juukan Gorge in 2020. But Mr Cook now says those laws went too far, were too complicated and placed unnecessary burdens on property owners. "I understand that the legislation has unintentionally caused stress, confusion and division in the community and for that I am sorry," he told a press conference this morning.
>>19320682 WA backtrack on heritage laws is a reminder the Indigenous voice to parliament can't be scrapped - "The "forever" nature of Anthony Albanese's constitutionally enshrined voice to parliament has been put up in lights by the West Australian retreat over introduction of Indigenous cultural heritage laws. This is the obvious point: there can be no backdown over a voice to parliament that has been cemented into the Constitution. If the voice proves unpopular, something goes wrong with the advisory body or there are unintended consequences, the entity cannot be scrapped. While bad governments can be voted out and bad laws can be repealed, the voice is permanent." - Joe Kelly - theaustralian.com.au
#19361889 at 2023-08-15 09:20:19 (UTC+1)
Q Research AUSTRALIA #31: MAGIC SWORD - IN THE FACE OF EVIL Edition
>>19222755
>>19308112
>>19326823
Prime Minister accuses No campaign of spreading AI misinformation
JOE KELLY - AUGUST 15, 2023
Anthony Albanese has accused the No campaign of spreading AI-generated misinformation ahead of the voice referendum, escalating his attack on media commentators opposed to his proposed constitutional change, including Peta Credlin and ?Andrew Bolt.
On WSFM radio with Amanda Keller and Brendan Jones, the Prime Minister said it was ?"pretty scary frankly, some of the No campaign and stuff that's going into people's Facebook posts which is designed to spread misinformation".
"Some of it is AI-generated, some of it generated, of course, by people like the commentators that you have said."
The commentators mentioned by Jones included Sky News hosts Credlin and Bolt, with Mr Albanese arguing on Monday that "some of the media outlets are pretty determined to promote the No campaign."
His claim AI technology was being used to attack the voice was rejected by the No campaign, spokeswoman Jacinta Price accusing the government of a "campaign of misinformation, spin, and outright lies".
"This time using the soft touch media of FM radio to slander the No campaign and media commentators with their divisive untruths around the use of AI," Senator Price said. "I, and many Australians, are in disbelief that the PM seems to be able to speak in great detail about the No campaign, but unable to speak to any of the detail in his divisive voice proposal."
It is the second time the No campaign has been forced to reject accusations it is using AI technology after former ?NAIDOC co-chair and journalist John Paul Janke made the claim on the ABC's Insiders program on August 6.
Janke said the No campaign had used AI to make it appear "like it is an Indigenous person supporting the No campaign".
The video Janke was referring to was made by a group called Constitutional Equality, run by cryptocurrency trader Phillip Mobbs, which has no connection with the No campaign.
Mr Mobbs told the ABC last week he had never had any contact with No campaign spokespeople Warren Mundine or Senator Price.
Bolt told The Australian he challenged Mr Albanese to "identify the misinformation he claims I've spread".
"Many of my pieces have been written to correct his misinformation, including fake claims that the voice would only give advice on matters directly affecting Aboriginals and the voice wouldn't ask the High Court to overrule the government," Bolt said. "That is the misinformation that I think is extremely dangerous and deceitful."
Mr Albanese singled out Credlin for particular criticism after the former chief-of-staff to Tony Abbott said the Uluru Statement from the Heart was a longer document than the 439-word statement made in 2017.
Credlin said the longer document was an "angry manifesto of grievance, separatism, division and compensation".
Speaking on ABC radio on Monday, Mr Albanese said: "Peta Credlin is a smart person. She must know that that's not true.
"She is saying things that she knows is not true. As is Peter Dutton ... no serious person thinks that that's the case."
Credlin told The Australian: "The people wheeled out last week to bolster the PM's claim that it's just a ... one-page poster are all the same people who for six years since Uluru have implored us to read what they regard as the full document of many pages in length.
"It just doesn't stack up, that suddenly what's been true for years is not true now ... As to the slights and the slurs, quite honestly that just says to me we are getting closer and closer to the truth."
While Mr Albanese told the ABC The Australian had provided "substantial coverage of the Yes campaign as well as the No campaign", he has ramped up criticism of journalists who have covered the No campaign.
Speaking in parliament earlier this month, he took aim at both The Daily Telegraph's ?national affairs editor James Morrow and 2GB radio host Ray Hadley.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/prime-minister-accuses-no-campaign-of-spreading-ai-misinformation/news-story/d3c351e1267b7c9802edebdb941ff4ab
#19326823 at 2023-08-09 12:18:19 (UTC+1)
Q Research AUSTRALIA #31: MAGIC SWORD - IN THE FACE OF EVIL Edition
>>19222755
>>19308112
Indigenous voice to parliament: AI No group denies relationship with Warren Mundine and Jacinta Price
REMY VARGA - AUGUST 7, 2023
The man behind a No campaign group that has drawn criticism for using AI generated videos has denied having a formal or informal relationship with Warren Mundine or Country-Liberal senator Jacinta Price.
The ABC was forced to issue a statement of clarification after former NAIDOC co-chair and journalist John Paul Janke said voice opponents were using AI to make it appear "like it is an ?Indigenous person supporting the No campaign".
Phillip Mobbs, who is running Constitutional Equality, said AI was a cost-effective way to create campaign videos that reflected multicultural Australia. "What you'll observe is the avatar is clearly not Indigenous but (it) does reflect the multicultural society we live in," he said.
"It is a person of colour, a brown person of colour, who reflects the vast bulk of our wonderful multicultural society.
"It's a false accusation [and] again notice the Yes campaign is introducing race into the debate."
Mr Mobbs, whose background is in education, said he had no relationship with Senator Price, Mr Mundine or No campaign group Advance Australia.
The Constitutional Equality Facebook page is followed by about 2000 people.
Janke on Sunday told ABC program Insiders that the No campaign was behind the use of AI and doubled down when questioned by host David Speers on whether it was the official No campaign or a random group.
"They are supporting obviously different voices, and they are under the guise of moderate ?voices against the voice like it's Australians for Unity, but they are using AI of a Blak character supporting the No case," he said.
The ABC later issued a statement clarifying that the Australians for Unity campaign, which is co-ordinated by Mr Mundine and Senator Price, was not affiliated with the AI generated videos.
An SBS spokesman said it continued to support Janke for raising awareness of misinformation and disinformation around the proposed voice on social media.
"Some of these videos using AI have attracted over 85,000 views and his comments highlight the important discussion needed around the nature of such campaign techniques," he said.
"On NITV and through our coverage across the SBS network, we're focused on ensuring all ?Australians have access to accurate news and information during this debate."
Mr Mundine and Senator Price deny using AI in their campaign materials.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/indigenous-voice-to-parliament-ai-no-group-denies-relationship-with-warren-mundine-and-jacinta-price/news-story/8ed2cb98096a74098ad482ca1a84c943
#19308112 at 2023-08-06 10:17:29 (UTC+1)
Q Research AUSTRALIA #31: MAGIC SWORD - IN THE FACE OF EVIL Edition
>>19222755
>>19297392
'Complete lie': Jacinta Price rejects claims No campaign using fake images of Indigenous people
ELLIE DUDLEY - AUGUST 6, 2023
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No campaigner Warren Mundine and Country-Liberal senator Jacinta Price have knocked back "racist" allegations they have used AI-generated images of Aboriginal people to encourage people to oppose the Indigenous voice.
Former NAIDOC co-chair and journalist John Paul Janke on Sunday told ABC Insiders that voice opposers had created the AI-generated images "to try to look like it is an Indigenous person supporting the No campaign".
"Online, the No campaign have multiple social media pages. Some of them are now using AI with a Blak Indigenous character to try to look like it is an Indigenous person supporting the No campaign," he said, speaking from the Garma festival.
When host David Speers interjected to question whether it was the official No campaign or "some random", Mr Janke doubled down.
"No, from the No campaign. They are supporting obviously different voices, and they are under the guise of moderate voices against the voice like it's Australians for Unity, but they are using AI of a Blak character that is supporting the No case," he said.
Senator Price labelled the accusations "racist" and "offensive" and said they were completely baseless.
"Of all the racist, offensive, inaccurate things that have been said about this No campaign, this is probably the worst," she tweeted on Sunday afternoon. "According to the ABC, the No campaign @FairAusADV (Advance Australia) has created AI fake Indigenous Australians who are voting no," she said. "A complete and utter lie!"
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