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#20142389 at 2023-12-28 14:07:12 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #24718: The Fourth Day of Christmas Edition
>>20142358
>Help a slowmofo out
Mill's Methods
Methods of induction developed by John Stuart Mill
Mill's Methods are five methods of induction described by philosopher John Stuart Mill in his 1843 book A System of Logic. They are intended to illuminate issues of causation.
#17931814 at 2022-12-13 01:17:46 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #21979: Memes Will Be Their Downfall Edition
A call to the good people of MAGA to denounce the left's anti-Trump slanders
For the past ten days or so, Donald J. Trump, has been falsely vilified as a White supremacist who is comfortable in the company of anti-Semites, and attacked for his "calls" to abolish or "terminate" the Constitution (despite having never said such a thing).
History, I believe, will note that the more preposterous the false accusation against Donald J. Trump, the quicker the stirred-up crowd will toss reason aside and follow the persons spewing anti-Trump slander.
So what else is new? These slurs and more have been hurled at Mr. Trump since he announced his first candidacy for president, some seven-and-a-half years ago.
Sadly, as Machiavelli pointed out in Chapter 6 of Il Principe, the logical supporters of a political reformer will be slow to defend the leader against attack from the establishment. This observation on human nature remains trenchant, after nearly 500 years since Machiavelli put his words to paper, as indicated by the reluctance of the logical allies of Donald J. Trump to stand with him against demagogic assault from the Deep State intent on crushing the MAGA (common good) movement - this apathetic attitude resulted in the Mueller investigation, and two phony impeachments, one straddling his term in office and his leave-taking.
And the reluctance to defend our best president since Reagan continues. Imagine how good the years from 2021 to 2025 would have been had MAGA populists stood shoulder to shoulder with our MAGA president who revived the populist spirit expressed by Madison in the first half of Federalist Paper No. 57.
For one thing - it should be obvious to anyone of ordinary intelligence that our departure from Afghanistan would not have been the horrible disaster it was under the current president - and Ukraine would not have been invaded by Russia had the presidency of 45 been extended for a second term.
A scanning of the day's political landscape reveals, sadly, the ongoing relevance of an observation from John Stuart Mill at his inaugural address at St. Andrews in 1867:
Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.
moar: https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/12/a_call_to_the_good_people_of_maga_to_denounce_the_lefts_antitrump_slanders.html
Trump truthed this article
#17595695 at 2022-09-28 12:56:21 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #21573: Nord Stream 1 and 2 Destroyed: 5 Known Destruction Sites Edition
>>17595682
>"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
>
>Edmund Burke
so typical …
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing," a Quote Falsely Attributed to Edmund Burke
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." It's a quote routinely attributed to Edmund Burke. But it turns out falsely so. Apparently, he never uttered these words. At best, the essence of the quote can be traced back to the utilitarian philosopher John Stuart Mill, who delivered an 1867 inaugural address at the University of St. Andrews
https://www.openculture.com/2016/03/edmund-burkeon-in-action.html
#15589945 at 2022-02-10 01:16:48 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #19714: FF Inbound Washington, DC Role Players with SECRET clearance Edition
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things.
The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse.
The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
~ John Stuart Mill
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/02/09/viral-video-freedom-will-win-if-canadians-stand-together/#more-227227
another frog……kek
#14880649 at 2021-10-29 20:11:12 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #18823: Two Down, Eight Kun is Go Edition
>>14880611
1984 and/or brave new world?
carrot and the stick for control.
Hedonistic Utilitarianism
"A utilitarian theory which assumes that the rightness of an action depends entirely on the amount of pleasure it tends to produce and the amount of pain it tends to prevent. Bentham's utilitarianism is hedonistic. Although he describes the good not only as pleasure, but also as happiness, benefit, advantage, etc., he treats these concepts as more or less synonymous, and seems to think of them as reducible to pleasure. John Stuart Mill's utilitarianism, also described as hedonistic, differs importantly from Bentham's in taking some pleasures to be higher than other ones, so that when considering the values of the consequences of an action, not only the quantity but also the quality of pleasure has to be considered. This complicates the summing up, or may even make it impossible."
The Penguin Dictionary of Philosophy
ed. Thomas Mautner
ISBN 0-14-051250-0
Is it Brave New World or 1984? Here are a few dystopias we ALREADY live in
Helen Buyniski
Helen Buyniski
is an American journalist and political commentator at RT. Follow her on Twitter @velocirapture23 and on Telegram
1 Apr, 2020 17:32
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/484709-coronavirus-dystopias-1984-huxley-soylent/
#14584961 at 2021-09-15 08:20:44 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #18449: #CAaudit incoming
John Stuart and Anthony Weiner were room mates together in 1987. Coincidence?
>>14584839
#14537151 at 2021-09-07 23:34:33 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #18389: Audits, For The People! Edition
>>14537123
It's a quote routinely attributed to Edmund Burke. But it turns out falsely so. Apparently, he never uttered these words. At best, the essence of the quote can be traced back to the utilitarian philosopher John Stuart Mill, who delivered an 1867 inaugural address at the University of St. Andrews and stated: "Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion. Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. He is not a good man who, without a protest, allows wrong to be committed in his name, and with the means which he helps to supply, because he will not trouble himself to use his mind on the subject."
https://www.openculture.com/2016/03/edmund-burkeon-in-action.html
I'm here in a peaceful protest.
#14136112 at 2021-07-16 15:34:12 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #17884: The 'BS Responses Just Don't Cut It Anymore' Edition
>>14136082
>>14136094
I've been thinking for a while that all this emphasis on MEMEs was driven by the Marxists
This is the proof
CLOWN shills react to an intelligent excerpt from John Stuart Mills writing onLiberty
And both of them try to dumb us down to the APE level
Expose the shill tactics because the Marxists use the same tactic all over society.
#14136074 at 2021-07-16 15:26:31 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #17884: The 'BS Responses Just Don't Cut It Anymore' Edition
More than this, only when individuals freely choose diverse ways to live,
and to live with others, will they truly flourish. Mill abhorred the dullness that
in his mind results from "uniformity" and conformity. He defended the liberty
that leads to diversity in thought, speech, and living almost 200 years before it
became fashionable to do so, and he praised idiosyncrasy:
It is not by wearing down into uniformity all that is individual in
themselves, but by cultivating it, and calling it forth, within the
limits imposed by the rights and interests of others, that human
beings become a noble and beautiful object of contemplation ...
furnishing more abundant aliment to high thoughts and elevating
feelings, and strengthening the tie which binds every individual to
the race, by making the race infinitely better worth belonging to.
(On Liberty, p. 266)
What if we do not experience the liberty to choose, think, and develop
ourselves? Mill worried that without a fulsome amount of liberty we become
ape-like, less than fully human. Mill compares the absence of choice to slavery,
forced uniformity. Those who do not choose are "yoked," with "withered and
starved" human capabilities:
Thus the mind itself is bowed to the yoke: even in what people do
for pleasure, conformity is the first thing thought of; they like in
crowds; they exercise choice only among things commonly done:
peculiarity of taste, eccentricity of conduct, are shunned equally
with crimes: until by dint of not following their own nature they
have no nature to follow: their human capacities are withered and
starved: they become incapable of any strong wishes or native pleasures, and are generally without either opinions or feelings of home
growth, or properly their own. (On Liberty, p. 265)
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/sites/default/files/essential-John-Stuart-mill.pdf
PDF attached
#13622605 at 2021-05-09 22:00:03 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #17251: The USA Is Worth Fighting For Edition
>>13622541
"Bad people need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good people should look on and do nothing." - John Stuart Mill
#13088468 at 2021-03-02 18:40:31 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #16669: America Is The Home Of the Brave Not The Regime Of The Silenced Edition
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#12997461 at 2021-02-19 10:18:28 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #16555: The 'All The Liars Are On The Hypocrisy Train for Real' Edition
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#12997314 at 2021-02-19 10:16:30 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #16555: The 'All The Liars Are On The Hypocrisy Train for Real' Edition
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#12988401 at 2021-02-18 22:55:07 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #16549: Up Early? Edition
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#12169496 at 2020-12-25 15:20:12 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #15537: A People Free To Choose Will Always Choose Peace Edition
https://piedmonttrails.com/2020/01/30/early-settlements-surnames-of-tennessee-1756-1780/
Fort Loudon began as a British fort located in present day Monroe County. During the year of 1756, it's construction was modest but as the months went by, the fort grew to a great barrier among the wild elements of the landscape. The relations between the occupants and the Cherokee were civil but grew to despair during the year of 1758. By August of 1760, the Cherokee attacked the fort and was able to force the surrender of Captain Raymond Demere and others. Records indicate as many as 24 individuals were killed in the raid. Those who were unable to escape were captured by the Cherokee and the fate of these souls remain unknown. Today, the fort has been preserved and rebuilt. The original plans and the placement of the buildings and their functions have been restored as a state park. Many artifacts have been discovered all through the years. As the fort stands today in remembrance of those long ago, let us remember the people who dreamed of a fort to establish trade and growth in the lands known today as Tennessee. Names associated with Loudon Fort are James Glenn, John William De Brahm, William Henry Littleton, John Elliott, John Stuart, William Richardson, Lt. James Adamson, William Richardson Davie, Henry Timberlake, Thomas Sumter and more whose names have been lost for now. The fort also housed at least sixty women and children during the years of 1756 to 1760.
Watauga Settlement
Following the demise of Fort Loudon and the creation of the Royal Proclamation of October 7, 1763, a new settlement emerged along the banks of Boone Creek in 1769. Settlers were now able to travel to the area legally in accordance to Royal law. Captain William Bean and his wife settled the area and welcomed the birth of their son, Russell during that first year. Other families followed such as Samuel Masenngill, Henry Masengill, Julius Dugger and Andrew Greer. Many of these families arrived from both the Carolina area and the Virginia area. These lands were not purchased but leased as it was illegal to purchase lands from the Cherokee. James Robertson and John Sevier were known to lease lands from the Cherokee however, I've not been able to locate a written source for such documents which would prove this theory. Jonathon Tipton, John Carter, Charles Robertson and Zachariah Isbell all arrived in the area prior to the year ending in 1771. Jacob Brown, Robert Allison, Leonard Hart, Jacob Womack, Jesse Walton and Benjamin Gist were among these as well. It is known that the family of John Carr arrived from the South Carolina area and is believed that other South Carolina families made their way to this area during the years of the American Revolutionary War.
#11556238 at 2020-11-09 12:52:41 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #14754: While The World Sleeps, Anons Save It Edition
>>11555948
And most don't have photo proof of it..hmmm
Remember in 2016 election reading stuff that you could not take a picture of your ballot..
https://www.vox.com/21523858/ballot-selfies-state-rules
John Stuart Mill warned of its consequences:
Every man's vote must be public for the same reason that votes on the floor of the legislature are public.
North Carolina: In a February 25 press release, the state Board of Elections reminded voters "that North Carolina law prohibits taking photographs of or videotaping voted ballots."
https://www.ncsbe.gov/news/press-releases/2020/02/25/reminder-photographing-voted-ballot-against-law
With today's tech there is no reason that every ballot cannot be saved as an image, for cluster fucks like this election.
#11525769 at 2020-11-07 19:42:59 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #14716: A Parade To Remember Edition
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war, is much worse. When a people are used as mere human instruments for firing cannon or thrusting bayonets, in the service and for the selfish purposes of a master, such war degrades a people. A war to protect other human beings against tyrannical injustice; a war to give victory to their own ideas of right and good, and which is their own war, carried on for an honest purpose by their free choice, - is often the means of their regeneration. A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. As long as justice and injustice have not terminated their ever-renewing fight for ascendancy in the affairs of mankind, human beings must be willing, when need is, to do battle for the one against the other."
- John Stuart Mill
#11235222 at 2020-10-23 12:30:00 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #14352: Can You Feel The Pulse? Edition
Every believer of Karl Marx's 'exploitation theory' must answer this question:
How can you know that profits are 'exploitative' of wages, when profits precede wages both logically and historically?
"Profit" is the excess of receipts from the sale of products over the money costs of producing them-over, it must be repeated, the money costs of producing them.
A "capitalist" is one who buys in order subsequently to sell for a profit.
"Wages" are money paid in exchange for the performance of labor-not for the products of labor, but for the performance of labor itself.
On the basis of these definitions it follows that, if there are merely workers producing and selling their products, the money which they receive in the sale of their products is not wages. "Demand for commodities," to quote John Stuart Mill, "is not demand for labour."8 In buying commodities, one does not pay wages, and in selling commodities, one does not receive wages.
In the pre-capitalist economy, if such an economy ever in fact existed, all income recipients in the process of production are workers. But the incomes of those workers are not wages. They are, in fact, profits. Indeed, all income earned in producing products for sale in the pre-capitalist economy is profit or "surplus value"; no income earned in producing products for sale in such an economy is wages. For what the workers of a pre-capitalist economy receive are receipts from the sale of products. But they have no money costs of production to deduct from those sales receipts, for they have not acted as capitalists: They have not bought anything for the purpose of making possible their sales receipts, and therefore they have no money costs. The difference between receipts from the sale of products and zero money costs of production is the full magnitude of the sales receipts.
Wages are not the primary form of income in production. Profits are.
Accordingly, the profits which exist in a capitalist society are not a deduction from what was originally wages. On the contrary, the wages and the other money costs are a deduction from sales receipts-from what was originally all profit. The effect of capitalism is to create wages and to reduce profits relative to sales receipts.
Thus, capitalists do not impoverish wage earners, but make it possible for people to be wage earners. For they are responsible not for the phenomenon of profits, but for the phenomenon of wages.
And if wage earners want a larger relative share for wages and a smaller relative share for profits, they should want a higher economic degree of capitalism-they should want more and bigger capitalists.
The correct theory, as well as the actual history, is the exact opposite of the doctrine of the primacy of wages.
All believers of Karl Marx's 'exploitation theory' must answer this question.
https://mises.org/library/classical-economics-vs-exploitation-theory
#11187836 at 2020-10-21 12:22:35 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #14299: Red October - The Hunting Hunter Edition
Every Marxist has to answer the question of how they can know that profits are 'exploitative' of wages, given the fact that profits preceded wages in human history.
"Profit" is the excess of receipts from the sale of products over the money costs of producing them-over, it must be repeated, the money costs of producing them.
A "capitalist" is one who buys in order subsequently to sell for a profit.
"Wages" are money paid in exchange for the performance of labor-not for the products of labor, but for the performance of labor itself.
On the basis of these definitions it follows that, if there are merely workers producing and selling their products, the money which they receive in the sale of their products is not wages. "Demand for commodities," to quote John Stuart Mill, "is not demand for labour."8 In buying commodities, one does not pay wages, and in selling commodities, one does not receive wages.
In the pre-capitalist economy, if such an economy ever in fact existed, all income recipients in the process of production are workers. But the incomes of those workers are not wages. They are, in fact, profits. Indeed, all income earned in producing products for sale in the pre-capitalist economy is profit or "surplus value"; no income earned in producing products for sale in such an economy is wages. For what the workers of a pre-capitalist economy receive are receipts from the sale of products. But they have no money costs of production to deduct from those sales receipts, for they have not acted as capitalists: They have not bought anything for the purpose of making possible their sales receipts, and therefore they have no money costs. The difference between receipts from the sale of products and zero money costs of production is the full magnitude of the sales receipts.
Wages are not the primary form of income in production. Profits are.
Accordingly, the profits which exist in a capitalist society are not a deduction from what was originally wages. On the contrary, the wages and the other money costs are a deduction from sales receipts-from what was originally all profit. The effect of capitalism is to create wages and to reduce profits relative to sales receipts.
Thus, capitalists do not impoverish wage earners, but make it possible for people to be wage earners. For they are responsible not for the phenomenon of profits, but for the phenomenon of wages.
And if wage earners want a larger relative share for wages and a smaller relative share for profits, they should want a higher economic degree of capitalism-they should want more and bigger capitalists. More wealthy people!
The correct theory, as well as the actual history, is the exact opposite of the doctrine of the primacy of wages.
Marxists must answer this.
https://mises.org/library/classical-economics-vs-exploitation-theory
#10723570 at 2020-09-20 19:39:34 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #13724: Spiritual Warfare Edition
Erasing History and Erasing Truth: Censorship and Destroying Records Is the Cornerstone of Tyrants
"If all mankind minus one were of one opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind."
~ John Stuart Mill, On Liberty ch. 2 (1859)
Tyranny requires that the truth be silenced, that real history be erased and rewritten, that speech be restricted, and that individual thought be silenced. In this time of constant turmoil, false flags, wars, civil unrest, and now internal bio-terrorism and manufactured pandemics, a major agenda of the state apparatus is to silence all dissent, and mandate conformity. It is imperative considering the state's plan for total control that it stifle criticism and retain the power to control the mainstream narrative, while aggressively eliminating all other resistance and questioning. This is the state of the world that we live in today. As things continue to deteriorate, nonconformance cannot be allowed if global governance and a global reset are to be successful.
Current censorship has reached levels not seen in the past, and with all the advanced technology available, this nefarious plot to silence the thinkers and hide the truth could affect all forms of speech. It is getting much more difficult to find truthful information, as those like Google, Amazon, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, and many other venues are eliminating content and access to content at a blistering pace. A day rarely goes by without something I am reading or researching on these sites being taken down or hidden. This can only lead to a world consumed by propaganda alone, thus guaranteeing that only the state narrative will be presented in any mainstream or easily accessible format. This is a dangerous situation, especially considering the likelihood that through vaccination or other methods, much of the population could soon become subject to transhuman experimentation where injectable nanoparticles and chips could be used to alter human behavior.
This is not a new phenomenon, as tyrants throughout human history have censored writing and speech in order to protect their power structure. Power is always troubled by any that dare to think, and any that dare to question. In ancient times and not so ancient times, books were burned to keep the populace from having access to any material that was not acceptable by the throne or by the current political authority. In cases of resistance to 'high' authority, many were also killed by the state, and in many cases these 'cleansings' were targeted to the educated class, because they had the capability to think critically and express their ideas publically. Those that held power by force of arms would never allow criticism and dissent, because that could lead to hostility and insurrection by the people.
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/09/20/erasing-history-erasing-truth-censorship-and-destroying-records-is-cornerstone-of-tyrants/
#10330397 at 2020-08-18 15:27:57 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #13219: Tuesday Morning Melania Edition
Immanuel Kant was a real pissant
Who was very rarely stable
Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar
Who could think you under the table
David Hume could out-consume
Wilhelm Freidrich Hegel
And Wittgenstein was a beery swine
Who was just as schloshed as Schlegel
There's nothing Nietzsche couldn't teach ya
'bout the raising of the wrist
Socrates, himself, was permanently pissed
John Stuart Mill, of his own free will
On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill
Plato, they say, could stick it away
Half a crate of whiskey every day
Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle
And Hobbes was fond of his dram
And Rene Descartes was a drunken fart
"I drink, therefore I am."
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's pissed
#10247867 at 2020-08-11 00:53:01 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #13115: We Got The Cabal On The Defensive - Keep Pushing Edition
>>10247698
>>10247770
Now, in my view, the fundamental place to challenge the exploitation theory is not over the labor theory of value or the iron law of wages, but here, over its conceptual framework-over the doctrines of the primacy of wages and the deduction of profits from wages. Furthermore, it is precisely classical economics itself which provides the means for making this challenge. For classical economics implies that it is false to claim that wages are the original form of income and that profits are a deduction from them. This becomes apparent, as soon as we define our terms along classical lines:
"Profit" is the excess of receipts from the sale of products over the money costs of producing them-over, it must be repeated, the money costs of producing them.
A "capitalist" is one who buys in order subsequently to sell for a profit.
"Wages" are money paid in exchange for the performance of labor-not for the products of labor, but for the performance of labor itself.
On the basis of these definitions it follows that, if there are merely workers producing and selling their products, the money which they receive in the sale of their products is not wages. "Demand for commodities," to quote John Stuart Mill, "is not demand for labour."8 In buying commodities, one does not pay wages, and in selling commodities, one does not receive wages.
In the pre-capitalist economy, if such an economy ever in fact existed, all income recipients in the process of production are workers. But the incomes of those workers are not wages. They are, in fact, profits. Indeed, all income earned in producing products for sale in the pre-capitalist economy is profit or "surplus value"; no income earned in producing products for sale in such an economy is wages. For what the workers of a pre-capitalist economy receive are receipts from the sale of products. But they have no money costs of production to deduct from those sales receipts, for they have not acted as capitalists: They have not bought anything for the purpose of making possible their sales receipts, and therefore they have no money costs. The difference between receipts from the sale of products and zero money costs of production is the full magnitude of the sales receipts.
Thus, in the pre-capitalist economy, only workers receive incomes and there is no money capital. But all the incomes which the workers receive are profits, and none are wages. In the sequence C-M-C, everything is "surplus value"-one-hundred percent of the sales receipts and an infinite percentage of the zero money capital. In the sequence M-C- M', a smaller proportion of the incomes is "surplus value"-in degree that M is large relative to M'.
This same conclusion, that in the pre-capitalist economy all income is profit, and no income is wages, can be arrived at by way of Ricardo's badly misunderstood proposition that "profits rise as wages fall and fall as wages rise." The wages paid in production, according to Ricardo, are paid by capitalists, not by consumers. If, as in the pre-capitalist economy, there are no capitalists, then there are no wages paid in production, and if there are no wages paid in production, the full income earned must be profits.
Smith and Marx are wrong. Wages are not the primary form of income in production. Profits are. In order for wages to exist in production, it is first necessary that there be capitalists. The emergence of capitalists does not bring into existence the phenomenon of profit. Profit exists prior to their emergence. The emergence of capitalists brings into existence the phenomena of wages and money costs of production.
https://mises.org/library/classical-economics-vs-exploitation-theory
#10092732 at 2020-07-27 19:10:50 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #12917: Those Who Post Violence Be Advised We Report and Filter Edition
>>10092697
Refutation of Karl Marx and the entire Socialist ideology in one sentence:
The Primary of Profits
"Now, in my view, the fundamental place to challenge the exploitation theory is not over the labor theory of value or the iron law of wages, but here, over its conceptual framework-over the doctrines of the primacy of wages and the deduction of profits from wages. Furthermore, it is precisely classical economics itself which provides the means for making this challenge. For classical economics implies that it is false to claim that wages are the original form of income and that profits are a deduction from them. This becomes apparent, as soon as we define our terms along classical lines:
"Profit" is the excess of receipts from the sale of products over the money costs of producing them-over, it must be repeated, the money costs of producing them.
A "capitalist" is one who buys in order subsequently to sell for a profit.
"Wages" are money paid in exchange for the performance of labor-not for the products of labor, but for the performance of labor itself.
On the basis of these definitions it follows that, if there are merely workers producing and selling their products, the money which they receive in the sale of their products is not wages. "Demand for commodities," to quote John Stuart Mill, "is not demand for labour."8 In buying commodities, one does not pay wages, and in selling commodities, one does not receive wages.
In the pre-capitalist economy, if such an economy ever in fact existed, all income recipients in the process of production are workers. But the incomes of those workers are not wages. They are, in fact, profits. Indeed, all income earned in producing products for sale in the pre-capitalist economy is profit or "surplus value"; no income earned in producing products for sale in such an economy is wages. For what the workers of a pre-capitalist economy receive are receipts from the sale of products. But they have no money costs of production to deduct from those sales receipts, for they have not acted as capitalists: They have not bought anything for the purpose of making possible their sales receipts, and therefore they have no money costs. The difference between receipts from the sale of products and zero money costs of production is the full magnitude of the sales receipts.
Thus, in the pre-capitalist economy, only workers receive incomes and there is no money capital. But all the incomes which the workers receive are profits, and none are wages. In the sequence C-M-C, everything is "surplus value"-one-hundred percent of the sales receipts and an infinite percentage of the zero money capital. In the sequence M-C- M', a smaller proportion of the incomes is "surplus value"-in degree that M is large relative to M'."
https://mises.org/library/classical-economics-vs-exploitation-theory
#9220306 at 2020-05-18 04:08:58 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #11800: Knowledge is power. Edition
>>9220298
Resignations in the news 5/14/2020 thru 5/17/2020 - part 2
Apple's top lobbyist resigned after getting tapped to work on Joe Biden's campaign
https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-head-of-policy-resigns-biden-campaign-2020-5
Retiring Sen. Martha Hennessey '76, colleagues reflect on her time in office
https://www.thedartmouth.com/article/2020/05/retiring-sen-hennessey-colleagues-reflect-on-her-time-in-office
Moore resigns as Antelope County emergency manager
https://norfolkdailynews.com/news/moore-resigns-as-antelope-county-emergency-manager/article_4969cc94-9641-11ea-91d1-97013b19116a.html
Osseo accepts city planner's resignation
https://www.hometownsource.com/press_and_news/news/government/osseo-accepts-city-planner-s-resignation/article_864c7e18-9556-11ea-9891-6ff015ade9ec.html
Hobart board honors retired clerk-treasurer
https://gopresstimes.com/2020/05/14/hobart-board-honors-retired-clerk-treasurer-smith/
Oberlin Retiring From WPD After 23 Years Of Service
https://timesuniononline.com/Content/Local-News/Local-News/Article/Oberlin-Retiring-From-WPD-After-23-Years-Of-Service/2/453/126617
Miluk resigns as Greenbrier East wrestling coach
https://www.register-herald.com/sports/miluk-resigns-as-greenbrier-east-wrestling-coach/article_cc045f46-5a69-5808-a327-ebbb11b98651.html
Lindemeier resigns as NP Legion Board President
https://www.knopnews2.com/content/news/Lindemeier-resigns-as-NP-Legion-board-president-570483801.html
Brett Blundy resigns from Aventus, Accent
https://www.afr.com/property/commercial/brett-blundy-resigns-from-aventus-accent-20200512-p54s70
Jackson retiring from Jefferson school system
https://www.mainstreetnews.com/jackson/news/jackson-retiring-from-jefferson-school-system/article_59b0ec5a-ecff-565c-a453-2ddb669bff71.html
Phumelela CEO John Stuart resigns
https://m.fin24.com/Companies/TravelAndLeisure/phumelela-ceo-John-Stuart-resigns-20200515
Travel industry boss resigns after lashing out at Tracy Grimshaw over refund scandal
https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/health-safety/travel-industry-boss-lashes-out-at-tracy-grimshaw-over-refund-scandal/news-story/781709224151b9f7aceafdfade558a82
LCRPC planner Elswyth Strassberger resigns
https://www.wiscassetnewspaper.com/article/lcrpc-planner-elswyth-strassberger-resigns/134077
Wethersfield town council member resigns after swearing during meeting
https://www.fox61.com/article/news/local/wethersfield-town-council-member-resigns-after-swearing-during-meeting/520-3b04377e-2593-4ae5-8dd5-5599d925a71d
Moderna Says Moncef Slaoui Has Resigned From Moderna's Board
https://www.reuters.com/article/brief-moderna-says-moncef-slaoui-has-res/brief-moderna-says-moncef-slaoui-has-resigned-from-modernas-board-idUSFWN2CX13T
Northumberland County election director resigns
https://www.wkok.com/northumberland-county-election-director-resigns/
Poland's president appointed an ultra-conservative as new interim head of the Supreme Court on Friday after his predecessor resigned
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-poland-judiciary/polands-interim-top-judge-resigns-in-supreme-court-turmoil-idUSKBN22R20G
Lockport priest resigns after inappropriate video posted on social media
https://wgntv.com/chicago-news/lockport-priest-resigns-after-inappropriate-video-posted-on-social-media/
Discovery Announces Resignation of Director
https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2020/05/15/2034263/0/en/Discovery-Announces-Resignation-of-Director.html
Fayetteville Police employee fired after stealing marijuana from evidence
https://truecrimedaily.com/2020/05/15/fayetteville-police-employee-fired-after-stealing-marijuana-from-evidence/
Hilchey resigns from Genesee County Legislature
https://www.thedailynewsonline.com/news/local/hilchey-resigns-from-genesee-county-legislature/article_4ba8fe65-0bf3-5a81-b26a-dc5421fc442c.html
CEO of Rhode Island psychiatric hospital resigns
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/hospital-executive-moves/ceo-of-rhode-island-psychiatric-hospital-resigns.html
Solomon Resigns as Newburgh Police Chief
https://highlandscurrent.org/2020/05/15/solomon-resigns-as-newburgh-police-chief/
#9090620 at 2020-05-09 07:15:17 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #11636: MSM Assets Complicit? Edition
>>9090272
"Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing." - John Stuart Mill, 1867
Percentages aside (how could I know)…my concern is the people who look the other way, fail to speak truth to power, and don't blow the whistle on the bad ones.
WRWY, but question if they are with us. Time will tell and I'm hopeful that this cynicism is proven wrong.
#8591099 at 2020-03-27 23:02:34 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #10999: Meet Your New Fed Chair, Donald J Trump Edition
What is cymatics?
Cymatics is the science of sound made visible.
It is based on the principle that when sound encounters a membrane such as your skin or the surface of water, it imprints an invisible pattern of energy. In other words, the periodic vibrations in the sound sample are converted and become periodic water ripples, creating beautiful geometric patterns that reveal the once hidden realm of sound. If we could see the sounds around us with our eyes we would see myriads of holographic bubbles, each with a kaleidoscopic-like pattern its surface. The CymaScope, in a sense, allows us to image a circular section through a holographic sound bubble. Developed by John Stuart Reid in the UK, the CymaScope reveals the once hidden realm of sound. The CymaScope, like the invention of the microscope and telescope, opens a realm not previously suspected to exist; a whole new world of visible sound.
#8007644 at 2020-02-03 04:01:40 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #10249: KC Chiefs FTW! One for the Heartland! Edition
Aussie Academic: 'Ethically Misguided & Downright Dangerous' NOT To Censor Climate-Deniers
University of Melbourne "Centre for Advancing Journalism" academic Denis Muller believes climate censorship should be added to legally binding journalistic professional codes of conduct.
Media 'impartiality' on climate change is ethically misguided and downright dangerous
January 31, 2020 6.11am AEDT
Denis Muller
Senior Research Fellow in the Centre for Advancing Journalism, University of Melbourne
In September 2019, the editor of The Conversation, Misha Ketchell, declared The Conversation's editorial team in Australia was henceforth taking what he called a "zero-tolerance" approach to climate change deniers and sceptics. Their comments would be blocked and their accounts locked.
His reasons were succinct:
Climate change deniers and those shamelessly peddling pseudoscience and misinformation are perpetuating ideas that will ultimately destroy the planet.
...
But in the era of climate change, this conventional approach is out of date. A more analytical approach is called for.
...
Harm is a long-established criterion for abridging free speech. John Stuart Mill, in his seminal work, On Liberty, published in 1859, was a robust advocate for free speech but he drew the line at harm:
… the only purpose for which power can be exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others.
It follows that editors may exercise the power of refusing to publish climate-denialist material if doing so prevents harm to others, without violating fundamental free-speech principles.
Other harms too provide established grounds for limiting free speech. Some of these are enforceable at law - defamation, contempt of court, national security - but speech about climate change falls outside the law and so becomes a question of ethics.
The harms done by climate change, both at a planetary level and at the level of human health, are well-documented and supported by overwhelming scientific evidence.
…
External guidance is nonexistent. The ethical codes promulgated by the media accountability bodies - the Australian Press Council and the Australian Communications and Media Authority - make no mention of how impartiality should be achieved in the context of climate change. The Media, Entertainment and Arts Alliance's code of ethics is similarly silent.
These bodies would serve the profession and the public interest by developing specific standards to deal with the issue of climate change, and guidance about how to meet them. It is not an issue like any other. It is existential on a scale surpassing even nuclear war.
…
Read more here…
The problem with comparing discussion of climate change to shouting "fire" in a burning theatre is one of immediacy.
Shouting "fire" to create a fake panic in a movie cinema is punishable, because it has been amply demonstrated through experience that creating a fake panic causes immediate, measurable harm; we know through observation of past events that people can be hurt or even killed during the resulting stampede.
But a public comment disputing alarmist climate claims; not so much.
The author's comparison of climate change to an imminent nuclear war is absurd. Climate change is a gradual process, with significant changes taking decades or even centuries to manifest.
Even if climate skeptics were totally wrong, there is no justification for shutting down our right to be wrong. Unlike shouting "fire" in a crowded theatre, no single climate "shout", no matter how wrong, has the potential to alter the trajectory of society to such an extent that measurable harm could be ascribed to it.
If society lowers the bar of censorship to such an extent that publicly supporting a position which might be wrong but which causes no immediate harm qualifies as a punishable offence, then we have lost more than our right to free speech.
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/aussie-academic-ethically-misguided-downright-dangerous-not-censor-climate-deniers
#7608364 at 2019-12-24 13:20:21 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #9733: Almost Ebake Edition
>>7608342
Immanuel Kant was a real piss-ant
who was very rarely stable.
Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar
who could think you under the table.
David Hume could out-consume
Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel.
And Wittgenstein was a beery swine
who was just as sloshed as Schlegel.
There's nothing Nietzsche couldn't teach 'ya
'bout the raising of the wrist.
Socrates, himself, was permanently pissed.
John Stuart Mill, of his own free will,
after half a pint of shandy was particularly ill. Plato, they say, could stick it away,
half a crate of whiskey every day!
Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle,
And Hobbes was fond of his Dram.
And René Descartes was a drunken fart:
'I drink, therefore I am.'
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker,
but a bugger when he's pissed.
#6471412 at 2019-05-11 15:47:58 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #8275: Temps can be very Dangerous Edition
>>6471336
It's funny, you can easily place the eras, and they all look relatively normal (the first one is kinda scary), until you get to the last one that looks like a frankenmonster. Something seems "off" with it.
Then go to the Betty Crocker website and you find out why:
For her 75th anniversary in 1996, a nationwide search found 75 women of diverse backgrounds and ages who embody the characteristics of Betty Crocker. The characteristics that make up the spirit of Betty Crocker are: enjoys cooking and baking; committed to family and friends; resourceful and creative in handling everyday tasks; and involved in her community. A computerized composite of the 75 women, along with the 1986 portrait of Betty, served as inspiration for the painting by internationally known artist John Stuart Ingle.
Kinda sums up the whole SJW, PC, globalist thing right there.
#5830537 at 2019-03-22 21:04:02 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #7458: The Mueller Retort Edition
>>5830137
Marketplace of ideas and Freedom of Speech 1
Total bullshit! Hate speech is protected speech, under the First Amendment! They didn't write the First Amendment so that only speech "agreeable" to everyone, is protected! Rather, that was the point of protecting the speech of those with diametrically opposed views.
The USSC has set forth the concept of "The marketplace of ideas," in many of their opinions.
The marketplace of ideas refers to the belief that the test of the truth or acceptance of ideas depends on their competition with one another and not on the opinion of a censor, whether one provided by the government or by some other authority.
Marketplace of Ideas
By David Schultz (Updated June 2017 by David L. Hudson)
John Stuart Mill's writings in On Liberty, published in 1859, is thought to be the origin of translating market competition into a theory of free speech. Mill argues against censorship and in favor of the free flow of ideas. Asserting that no alone knows the truth, or that no one idea alone embodies either the truth or its antithesis, or that truth left untested will slip into dogma, Mill claims that the free competition of ideas is the best way to separate falsehoods from fact. (Photo of John Stuart Mill circa 1870 by the London Stereoscopic Company, public domain)
The marketplace of ideas refers to the belief that the test of the truth or acceptance of ideas depends on their competition with one another and not on the opinion of a censor, whether one provided by the government or by some other authority.
Concept is economic analogy
This concept draws on an analogy to the economic marketplace, where, it is claimed, through economic competition superior products sell better than others. Thus, the economic marketplace uses competition to determine winners and losers, whereas the marketplace of ideas uses competition to judge truth and acceptability. This theory of speech therefore condemns censorship and encourages the free flow of ideas as a way of viewing the First Amendment.
John Stuart Mill originated concept
Perhaps the origins of translating market competition into a theory of free speech was John Stuart Mill's 1859 publication On Liberty. In Chapter 2, Mill argues against censorship and in favor of the free flow of ideas. Asserting that no one alone knows the truth, or that no one idea alone embodies either the truth or its antithesis, or that truth left untested will slip into dogma, Mill claims that the free competition of ideas is the best way to separate falsehoods from fact.
Court has invoked the marketplace concept as a theory of free expression
The first reference to the marketplace of ideas was by Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. in Abrams v. United States (1919). Dissenting from a majority ruling that upheld the prosecution of an anarchist for his anti-war views under the Espionage Act of 1917, Holmes stated: "But when men have realized that time has upset many fighting faiths, they may come to believe even more than they believe the very foundations of their own conduct that the ultimate good desired is better reached by free trade in ideas - that the best test of truth is the power of the thought to get itself accepted in the competition of the market, and that truth is the only ground upon which their wishes safely can be carried out."
#5735175 at 2019-03-17 15:27:04 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #7335: Early Morning Bake Edition
>>5735161
Uses of the pons asinorum as a metaphor include:
Richard Aungerville's Philobiblon contains the passage "Quot Euclidis discipulos retrojecit Elefuga quasi scopulos eminens et abruptus, qui nullo scalarum suffragio scandi posset! Durus, inquiunt, est his sermo; quis potest eum audire?", which compares the theorem to a steep cliff that no ladder may help scale and asks how many would-be geometers have been turned away.[12]
The term pons asinorum, in both its meanings as a bridge and as a test, is used as a metaphor for finding the middle term of a syllogism.[12]
The 18th-century poet Thomas Campbell wrote a humorous poem called "Pons asinorum" where a geometry class assails the theorem as a company of soldiers might charge a fortress; the battle was not without casualties.[16]
Economist John Stuart Mill called Ricardo's Law of Rent the pons asinorum of economics.[17]
Pons Asinorum is the name given to a particular configuration of a Rubik's Cube.
Eric Raymond referred to the issue of syntactically-significant whitespace in the Python programming language as its pons asinorum.[18]
The Finnish aasinsilta and Swedish åsnebrygga is a literary technique where a tenuous, even contrived connection between two arguments or topics, which is almost but not quite a non sequitur, is used as an awkward transition between them.[19] In serious text, it is considered a stylistic error, since it belongs properly to the stream of consciousness- or causerie-style writing. Typical examples are ending a section by telling what the next section is about, without bothering to explain why the topics are related, expanding a casual mention into a detailed treatment, or finding a contrived connection between the topics (e.g. "We bought some red wine; speaking of red liquids, tomorrow is the World Blood Donor Day").
In Dutch, ezelsbruggetje ('little bridge of asses') is the word for a mnemonic. The same is true for the German Eselsbrücke.
In Czech, oslí m?stek has two meanings - it can describe either a contrived connection between two topics or a mnemonic.
#4133576 at 2018-12-03 21:17:45 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #5262: "..yes, the country has to know the TRUTH..." Edition
Report: Facebook's COO Asked Company To Research Soros' Financial Interests
Facebook's Chief Operating Officer Sheryl Sandberg asked her staff to conduct research on billionaire George Soros, according to a report in The New York Times.
Sandberg has long maintained that she kept her distance from a Facebook-orchestrated effort to respond to Soros after the leftist icon attacked social media giants such as Facebook and Google back in January, CNBC reported.
"The internet monopolies have neither the will nor the inclination to protect society against the consequences of their actions. That turns them into a menace and it falls to the regulatory authorities to protect society against them," Soros said at the time, according to The Guardian.
He said social media giants "deceive their users by manipulating their attention and directing it towards their own commercial purposes" and "deliberately engineer addiction to the services they provide."
This, he added, "can be very harmful, particularly for adolescents."
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"The power to shape people's attention is increasingly concentrated in the hands of a few companies. It takes a real effort to assert and defend what John Stuart Mill called 'the freedom of mind'. There is a possibility that once lost, people who grow up in the digital age will have difficulty in regaining it. This may have far-reaching political consequences," Soros said.
After Soros spoke, Sandberg acted, according to the Times report, which said she asked for information about Soros's business holdings and whether his criticism of social media was motivated by money.
Facebook later hired Definers Public Affairs to respond to Soros' remarks by showing that he was funding groups critical of Facebook.
Facebook said Sandberg did not start the process of investigating Soros.
"Mr. Soros is a prominent investor and we looked into his investments and trading activity related to Facebook," the company said in a statement.
https://www.westernjournal.com/report-facebooks-coo-asked-company-research-soros-financial-interests/
#3939908 at 2018-11-17 16:16:20 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #5011: Every Vote Counts Edition
>>3939810
It shows strength of character when someone doesn't take credit for other's work, and credits them instead...so h/t anon…thanks (instead) for taking the time and sharing the information.
>It's why filtering content, or ignoring bad information instead of calling it for what is is, is so disingenuous to suggest
Bingo. We have a winner!!! The 'marketplace of ideas' anon. People need to be less offended these days and just counter bad/offense ideas with stronger ones. As a Jew I cringe when other Jews start with the "anti-semitism" shit. If you feel someone is talking shit, or is uneducated about something, rather then 'hate speech' laws (which are only counter-productive in my opinion), educate people as to why what was said should be discounted. My take anyway. I'll leave this link on John Stuart Mill and the concept for others if there interested. I picked it at random, but I read the first paragraph and it sounds like a good analysis, and well researched essay. Cheers.
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"The marketplace of ideas theory stands for the notion that, with minimal government intervention-a laissez faire approach to the regulation of speech and expression-ideas, theories, propositions, and movements will succeed or fail on their own merits. Left to their own rational devices, free individuals have the discerning capacity to sift through competing proposals in an open environment of deliberation and exchange, allowing truth, or the best possible results, to be realized in the end."
http:// uscivilliberties.org/themes/4099-marketplace-of-ideas-theory.html
#3643904 at 2018-10-28 23:24:00 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #4625: BLEXIT Edition
>>3643884
Metaphorical usage
Uses of the pons asinorum as a metaphor include:
Richard Aungerville's Philobiblon contains the passage "Quot Euclidis discipulos retrojecit Elefuga quasi scopulos eminens et abruptus, qui nullo scalarum suffragio scandi posset! Durus, inquiunt, est his sermo; quis potest eum audire?", which compares the theorem to a steep cliff that no ladder may help scale and asks how many would-be geometers have been turned away.[12]
The term pons asinorum, in both its meanings as a bridge and as a test, is used as a metaphor for finding the middle term of a syllogism.[12]
The 18th-century poet Thomas Campbell wrote a humorous poem called "Pons asinorum" where a geometry class assails the theorem as a company of soldiers might charge a fortress; the battle was not without casualties.[16]
Economist John Stuart Mill called Ricardo's Law of Rent the pons asinorum of economics.[17]
Pons Asinorum is the name given to a particular configuration of a Rubik's Cube.
Eric Raymond referred to the issue of syntactically-significant whitespace in the Python programming language as its pons asinorum.[18]
#3378389 at 2018-10-07 08:50:06 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #4281 Can't Stop Smiling Edition
"…If allowed any rights of their own, they will acknowledge no rights at all in anyone else, and never will yield in anything, unless they can be compelled…"
John Stuart Mill, The Subjection of Women 1869
#3054534 at 2018-09-17 05:47:20 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #3865: Night Raid Edition
The Guelphs are also called the Neri, Black Guelphs, or Black Nobility, and supported William of Orange in his seizure of the throne of England, which eventually resulted in the formation of the Bank of England and the East India Company, which would rule the world from the 17th century. All coup d'etats, revolutions and wars in the 19th and 20th centuries are centered in the battle of the Guelphs to hold and enhance their power, which is now the New World Order of the British Empire.
The power of the Guelphs would extend through the Italian financial centers to the north of France in Lombardy (all Italian bankers were referred to as "Lombards"). Lombard in German means "deposit bank", and the Lombards were bankers to the entire Medieval world. They would later transfer operations north to Hamburg, then to Amsterdam and finally to London.
The Guelphs would start the slave trade to the colonies. The Guelphs, in order to aid their control of finance and politics, would perpetuate gnostic cults which eventually developed into the Rosicrucians, Unitarians, Fabian Society and the World Council of Churches. The East India company, together with John Stuart Mill, would finance the University of London.
A friend of Mill, historian George Grote, a founder of London University donated £6000 for the study of "mental health", which began the worldwide "mental health" movement.
#3036751 at 2018-09-15 21:16:20 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #3842: CARPET BOMBS --> MOAB Edition
Tyranny of the majority (or tyranny of the masses) refers to an inherent weakness of majority rule in which the majority of an electorate can and does place its own interests above, and at the expense of, those in the minority. This results in oppression of minority groups comparable to that of a tyrant or despot, argued John Stuart Mill in his famous 1859 book On Liberty.[1]
Potentially, through tyranny of the majority, a disliked or unfavored ethnic, religious, political, social, or racial group may be deliberately targeted for oppression by the majority element acting through the democratic process.[2][unreliable source?]
American founding father Alexander Hamilton, writing to Thomas Jefferson from the Constitutional Convention, argued the same fears regarding the use of pure direct democracy by the majority to elect a demagogue who, rather than work for the benefit of all citizens, set out to either harm those in the minority or work only for those of the upper echelon. The Electoral College mechanism present in the indirect United States presidential election system, and the phenomenon of faithless electors allowed for within it, was, in part, deliberately created as a safety measure not only to prevent such a scenario, but also to prevent the use of democracy to overthrow democracy for an authoritarian, dictatorial or other system of oppressive government.[3] As articulated by Hamilton, one reason the Electoral College was created was so "that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications".[4]
The scenarios in which tyranny perception occurs are very specific, involving a sort of distortion of democracy preconditions:
Centralization excess: when the centralized power of a federation make a decision that should be local, breaking with the commitment to the subsidiarity principle.[5] Typical solutions, in this condition, are concurrent majority and supermajority rules.
Abandonment of rationality: when, as Tocqueville remembered, a decision "which bases its claim to rule upon numbers, not upon rightness or excellence".[6] The use of public consultation, technical consulting bodies, and other similar mechanisms help to improve rationality of decisions before voting on them. Judicial review (e.g. declaration of nullity of the decision) is the typical way after the vote.
#2528998 at 2018-08-09 22:45:35 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #3190: Moar Trump WinninQ
>>2528849
The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing
John F. Kennedy? Edmund Burke? R. Murray Hyslop? Charles F. Aked? John Stuart Mill?
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/12/04/good-men-do/
jooos joos joos. how boring already.
#994127 at 2018-04-11 06:11:16 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #1238: We Watch Rick And Morty Edition
"Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion. Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing"
-John Stuart Mill
MUST watch moment of clarity
with Mark Levin:
https:// youtu.be/I6QpJmmXJa8
#818293 at 2018-03-28 12:18:51 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #1014: Q on FIRE, Operation Free Flynn in 30. Edition
Thanks for the drops.
>>818116 >Cambridge Analytica CT
All those words and no mention of Jim Simons. How ODD NOT.
>>818142 >sOrOs Project Syndicate article
It takes significant effort to assert and defend what John Stuart Mill called the freedom of mind. And there is a real chance that, once lost, those who grow up in the digital age - in which the power to command and shape people's attention is increasingly concentrated in the hands of a few companies - will have difficulty regaining it.
Don't you just love how Georgie colors his moves in moral philosophical musings? Read Open Society back in the day and for a few was intrigued by the ideas, mostly because was intrigued by his "mentor" Karl Popper.
Popper is portrayed by Soros and others as opposed to threats to democracy and even opposed to Marxism and communism.
Then one digs a bit deeper.
"I am a democratic socialist," Magee declares, "and I believe that the young Popper worked out, as no one else has ever done, what the philosophical foundations of democratic socialism should be."
>http:// sorosfiles.com/soros/2011/10/the-shocking-truth-about-soros-mentor-karl-popper's-"open-society"-philosophy.html#axzz5B2p15v97
Great lesson on what I call the perversion inversion. Good thing is that experience gave insight to the mechanics of Their propaganda. E.g. in P.S. article,
The countries in which such unholy marriages are likely to occur first are Russia and China. Chinese IT companies in particular are fully equal to the US platforms. They also enjoy the full support and protection of President Xi Jinping's regime. China's government is strong enough to protect its national champions, at least within its borders.
Now Georgie is ragging on China. Note that this is AFTER POTUS' trip to the Forbidden City.
There's something here connecting these 2 stories. We just need to find the (Link).
>>818050 Worth a post for sure. Will do when not in danger of sliding. When the higher frequencies are combined to create harmonic overtones are when it gets really enlightening…
#553317 at 2018-03-05 02:53:08 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #681:
Freedom of speech is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or a community to articulate their opinions and ideas without fear of retaliation, censorship, or sanction.[2][3][4][5] The term "freedom of expression" is sometimes used synonymously but includes any act of seeking, receiving, and imparting information or ideas, regardless of the medium used.
Freedom of expression is recognized as a human right under article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) and recognized in international human rights law in the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR). Article 19 of the UDHR states that "everyone shall have the right to hold opinions without interference" and "everyone shall have the right to freedom of expression; this right shall include freedom to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds, regardless of frontiers, either orally, in writing or in print, in the form of art, or through any other media of his choice". The version of Article 19 in the ICCPR later amends this by stating that the exercise of these rights carries "special duties and responsibilities" and may "therefore be subject to certain restrictions" when necessary "[f]or respect of the rights or reputation of others" or "[f]or the protection of national security or of public order (order public), or of public health or morals".[6]
Freedom of speech and expression, therefore, may not be recognized as being absolute, and common limitations to freedom of speech relate to libel, slander, obscenity, pornography, sedition, incitement, fighting words, classified information, copyright violation, trade secrets, food labeling, non-disclosure agreements, the right to privacy, the right to be forgotten, public security, and perjury. Justifications for such include the harm principle, proposed by John Stuart Mill in On Liberty, which suggests that: "the only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others."[7] The idea of the "offense principle" is also used in the justification of speech limitations, describing the restriction on forms of expression deemed offensive to society, considering factors such as extent, duration, motives of the speaker, and ease with which it could be avoided.[7] With the evolution of the digital age, application of the freedom of speech becomes more controversial as new means of communication and restrictions arise, for example the Golden Shield Project, an initiative by Chinese government's Ministry of Public Security that filters potentially unfavorable data from foreign countries.
#490006 at 2018-02-25 06:15:51 (UTC+1)
Q Research General #603: Judge Jeanine Pirro Edition
Satire for the lulz…
http:// thefederalist.com/2018/01/24/james-comey-starts-interview-with-special-counsel-robert-mueller-a-transcript/
James Comey Starts His Interview With Special Counsel Robert Mueller: A Transcript
'Robert. It is my privilege and my sacred duty to meet you in this space …'
January 24, 2018 By Mary Katharine Ham
Mueller: "Hello, Jim."
Comey: "Robert. It is my privilege and my sacred duty to meet you in this space - the space between parties, between branches, between factions, where balance can be struck by the scales of justice, unencumbered by the dastardly thumbs of dark men with dark intentions. As the great John Stuart Mill once said -"
Mueller: "You can call me Bob, as you usually do. Just one quick question before we -"
Comey: "Oh, and I shall answer it. With the force of a raging river of truth shall I let flow the veracities etched upon the memos of my soul and also my literal memos, scribed with a love of duty and constancy unbreaking as the line of my Pilot G2 gel roller pen."
Mueller: "Jim, I just -"
Comey: "I hear you, Robert, and I want you to know I hear the American people and I hear the American heart beating. Listen with me - thump-THUMP, thump-THUMP. It quickens as we enter the arena of which Teddy once so famously spoke, where we will strive to do the deeds and spend ourselves in a worthy cause; where at the best I will know the triumph of high achievement, and at the worst, if I fail, at least fail while leaking strategically. No cold and timid souls, we, Robert."
Mueller: "I get it, Jim. I'd like to get on with -"
Comey: "I, too, would like to get on with it. With bending the arc of history toward justice with the sheer strength of our convictions. That's what it is we're doing here, after all, and what I have sought to do lo these many years as a servant of the public and in the footsteps of Publius before me, making the mark of my Pilot G2 gel roller pen as indelible on the preservation of the Union as that of our Founders, who of course did not have access to the finest in modern pen technology but nonetheless spurred themselves to be equal to the task. What excuse have I, then, with all this at my disposal?
Oh, could you take a pic here? Something pensive that captures the solemnity of the moment, but also the hope that simple honest men can repair the damage done. Portrait mode, obvi."
Mueller: "Okay, but I'm not really sure -"
Comey: "These are unsure times, Robert, and it is up to sure men to tell the world that this, the greatest country on Earth, has that handful of men willing to correct and protect against the grave wrongs of the American electorate. I mean, Russia. Russia's wrongs. That's of course what I mean."
Mueller: "All done. Now, can we -"
Comey: "Thank you. Lemme check this out. Did you take a few? Great. Done, Robert? I would not say we're done, here. We have not yet begun to fight for truth, justice and the American way! Our weapons may be different. It is true, my hand rested upon the rubberized hilt of my pen, not a sword, but it will deliver justice all the same. And, when we are truly done, everyone will know in every corner of this Earth.
"In the words of another tall, noble, unconventionally handsome patriot who was exactly what the country needed at exactly the right time, 'This nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom - and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth!'"
Mueller: ...
Comey: ...
Mueller: "Jim, I was just going to ask if you need to use the restroom before we start the interview."
Comey: "Oh, actually, yes. That raging river of truth thing got me. Hold my pen, will you? Don't lose it. It's a G2."
8chan/8kun QResearch AUSTRALIA Posts (1)
#10983457 at 2020-10-08 17:46:34 (UTC+1)
Q Research AUSTRALIA #10 - INFORMATION WARFARE Edition
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The value of free expression
Trump has said he has heard followers of QAnon are "people who love our country". Like other far-right groups, QAnon is ultra-nationalistic, so Trump is likely correct.
QAnon's ultra-nationalism is important when we talk about the Facebook ban because one of the founding principles of the United States as a nation is the idea people should be free to express any idea they like, including conspiracy theories, ideas associated with religious cults and hateful propaganda.
Key texts that informed the foundation of the US, such as the introduction to The Age of Reason by Thomas Paine, Areopagitica by John Milton and and John Stuart Mill's On Liberty, all make similar arguments on freedom of expression.
They argue that when we deny an idea the chance to be expressed, we do ourselves a disservice because we deny ourselves a chance to hear it. It is not just the right of the expresser to think and say; it is the right of the listener to hear and think.
From this point of view, ideas expressed by QAnon or any other fringe group should sharpen our ability to think critically about what we claim to know. If someone puts forward a seemingly crazy idea, they should be heard because they could be correct or hold kernels of truth to their ideas - if not, they need to be publicly refuted for the benefit of everyone.
John Stuart Mill argued "the greatest harm done is to those who are not heretics, and whose whole mental development is cramped, and their reason cowed, by the fear of heresy". The heretical view is therefore the most salient of all views because in its heresy enhances our individual and collective ability for critical thinking.
No simple solutions
Do these centuries-old principles still hold in the age of social media? Platforms like Facebook appear perfectly suited to the promotion and dissemination of conspiracy theories like QAnon. In their relentless quest for our attention, the platforms take advantage of the human tendency to find salacious and infuriating articles and ideas more captivating than nuanced, balanced and factual material.
There is no simple solution or shortcut to mitigating potentially dangerous ideas. They need to be openly refuted but to do this requires time and engagement with the ideas themselves but importantly first, an ability for critical thinking.
Who will do this work? It may be an indictment on our educational systems if it can be shown that we are not producing enough critical thinkers. Perhaps this is a place to start, so we do not have to rely on Silicon Valley to tell us what crazy ideas we can read, because those ideas will find it hard to find a home to begin with.
In the meantime perhaps Facebook can use its algorithms and tremendous resources to find a way to promote critical thinking and to incentivise nuanced and balanced discourse - adding to the global discussion rather than merely subtracting.
https://theconversation.com/facebook-is-removing-qanon-pages-and-groups-from-its-sites-but-critical-thinking-is-still-the-best-way-to-fight-conspiracy-theories-147668
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#129552 at 2023-06-22 13:11:00 (UTC+1)
QR Bunker General #381: The Mysterious Case of NOTHING WRONG Edition
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1:15 PM EDT
Preventing and Countering the use of New and Emerging Technologies for Terrorist Purposes: Way Forward for a Holistic Multilateral Response (2023 Counter-Terrorism Week Side-Event)
United Nations
https://teamup.com/event/show/id/L6Z4JoDrz4jCot3hZ4pWjXsK73MNct
https://media.un.org/en/asset/k1i/k1iy7ltzvt
1:30 PM EDT
Unless Congress Acts, We're Heading Toward a Child Care Cliff
The Century Foundation
https://tcf.org/content/event/unless-congress-acts-were-heading-toward-a-child-care-cliff/
1:30 PM EDT
Literature Selection Technical Review Committee LSTRC Meeting - June 2023
National Institutes of Health, Department of Health and Human Services
https://www.nlm.nih.gov/medline/medline_about_lstrc.html
https://videocast.nih.gov/watch=49653
2:00 PM EDT
Current State - Way Forward - EW Insights
Association of Old Crows
https://www.crows.org/page/CurrentState
2:00 PM EDT
Cross-Domain and Secure Remote Access Solutions at the Edge
The Association of the United States Army (AUSA)
https://www.workcast.com/register?cpak=4519361376633599
2:00 PM EDT
Medieval European Legal Manuscripts and What They Are Telling Us
Library of Congress
https://www.loc.gov/item/event-408794/Medieval-European-Legal-Manuscripts-and-What-They-are-Telling-Us/2023-06-22/
2:00 PM EDT
Genetic Conflicts During Meiosis Shape the Rapid Evolution of Essential Chromatin Proteins
National Institutes of Health, Department of Health and Human Services
https://calendar.nih.gov/event/view/43336
2:00 PM EDT
"Examination of Clemency at the Department of Justice" Will Examine the Department of Justice's Unprecedented Re-Prosecution of Philip Esformes, Whose Prison Sentence Was Originally Commuted by President Donald Trump
House Judiciary Committee
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WITNESSES:
Brett Tolman, Executive Director, Right on Crime
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Douglas Berman, Newton D. Baker-Baker & Hostetler Chair in Law, Michael E. Moritz College of Law
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https://www.congress.gov/event/118th-congress/house-event/116141
https://qresear.ch/?q=Esformes
https://judiciary.house.gov/committee-activity/hearings/examination-clemency-department-justice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwJFvhLPirg
2:00 PM EDT
Compliance with Committee Oversight
House Judiciary Committee
^
WITNESSES:
Zephranie Buetow, Assistant Secretary, Office of Legislative Affairs, U.S. Department of Homeland Security
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Carlos Uriarte, Assistant Attorney General, Office of Legislative Affairs, U.S. Department of Justice
Additional witnesses may be announced
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https://judiciary.house.gov/committee-activity/hearings/compliance-committee-oversight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhchMZkCFPI
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TBD
Federal Officials Testify on Judiciary Committee Oversight Requests
Zephranie Buetow, Homeland Security assistant secretary for legislative affairs, and Carlos Uriarte, assistant attorney general for legislative affairs, testify on compliance with House Judiciary Committee oversight requests before a subcommittee.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?528912-1/federal-officials-testify-judiciary-committee-oversight-requests
2:00 PM EDT
Legislative Hearing on Five Regulatory Streamlining and Federal Estate Management Bills
House Natural Resources Committee
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WITNESSES:
PANEL I (Bill Sponsors):
To Be Announced
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PANEL II (Administration and Outside Witnesses):
The Honorable Nada Wolff Culver, Principal Deputy Director, Bureau of Land Management, Washington, D.C. [All bills]
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The Honorable Rose Pugliese, Assistant Minority Leader, Colorado House of Representatives (District 14), Colorado Springs, Colorado [H.R. 2997]
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Ms. Michelle McConkie, Director, State of Utah School and Institutional Trust Lands Administration, Salt Lake City, Utah [H.R. 3049]
Mr. John Stuart, President and CEO, MTE Communications, Midvale, Idaho [H.R. 4141]
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Additional witness TBA
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https://www.congress.gov/event/118th-congress/house-event/116149
https://naturalresources.house.gov/calendar/eventsingle.aspx?EventID=413483
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TVIdPgR0qI
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